well...im pretty much a dumbass for saying quarter inch groups. Im an EXTREME amauture. I hate to admit it but i thought you measured from center. Im very sorry for this idiotic post. i belive some when they say they can shoot quarter inch groups.....but deff not me. really i was shooting 3/4 inch groups. Sorry everyone....i felt really dumb for a long time and never replied back.

Sorry for my HUGE mistake- sffguitar