I just can't understand as too why people make remarks on something that they are not sure on.
Bob is right about Mark , he is a 100% guy as I know him personaly myself.

Longbeard , you talk of the small tracks of Private that your not talking about , but the large tracks instead. At home here we don't have land tracks any bigger then 100acres. The odd farmer may have a couple hundred side by side , but on the most part they are the small tracks you are not talking about, that you say. It is real common to have 50 acres parcels because of break up land deals and housing placed on the small properties. The turkey hunter numbers are over the roof here in Ontario, it has got that there is no more land for new turkey hunters to hunt on, as most of the older hunters have it all. As you say , the nabours and friends all hunt the same land tracks 5-6 people to 100 acres. Thats the type of land I hunt every year here.

Now the Jab at the video production that was above. Some of these companies pay big bucks to hunt these 10,000's of acres of ranches at the start of the season just for footage, they are not pushing the fact that they are hunting hard hunted birds , but are producing what the average hunter wants to see. They are not fenced in birds , just managed and as you say not hunted hard, but this conversation was not anything to do with Video work at the start. I have hunted this type of hunt myself ONCE and this is also why I know what they are about.

WE had a film crew up here last spring to try and put a Canadian Turkey hunt on video for some difference in watching. Well we put a week into it and had lots of action and a number of all mosts , but in the end we only had one gobbler that came into range that I had to let walk because we were not setup right for the proper footage. Now if Companies did this same thing all over the US and tried to film the areas the average hunter hunts , well No body would ever watch a turkey video or DVD. I know that for a fact. I have killed Turkeys all across North America and have did it on some Public land along the way, but I still like to sit and watch Turkey videos and not to look at it like I'm any better then the ones on the video , but mearly dream about being in the same spot come spring and have the same chance. Years back vidoes were very good at learning , but some of the stuff that has came out in the last 4-5 years is getting a little hard at trying to see the insides of the hunt. Primo's Video's have turned into a Killing show, they kill a bird and the next set they are another place killing another and another, No one can learn from that and truth be known it get sickning after a while.

Longbeard I will say I understand your last post as to properties and what you said was exactly what I was talking about some Public land can be every bit as frustrating as Public...BT