thats what i figured dwd2001....i figured the stuff that comes on a package bow isnt all that good and if i spend extra money on that i will have a better shooting bow...terry....im pretty sure i will love bow hunting...i love being in the woods period....and love to sit be close to game....and work hard for it.....i know bow hunting is a game of distance and more challenging then thumping one at 150yds with a 3006.....thats part of what im looking for...so what are some of the better bows that are 250-350 or so??? or even who manufacturs the better bows...i know mathews hoyt and bowtech are like the..top 3.....but dont know that they make entry level bows..i gota look into them.....reflex ismade by hoyt right?? they should be good bows right? what about PSE, jennings, browning, ect?? whats worth looking at?? believe it or not im here on this forum reading ALOT.....so i kinda know what accessories im leaning towards already...ill spend the money to get a good rest and sights ect...just dont know what bows are good for my money...thanx guys