I WILL ASUME YOUR TALKING ABOUT THE REMINGTON VERSION. IN IT I HAVE HAD EXCELENT RESULTS WITH IMR 4350 NEAR MAX LOADS WITH 140 GRAIN SIERRA PRO HUNTERS, THIS IS IN A RUGER NO. 1. I HAVE ALSO HAD THE SAME RESULTS FOR THE WIN. 7 SHORT IN A STAINLESS MODEL 70'. BOTH OF THESE LOADS ARE KEEPING GROUPS FOR THREE SHOTS BETWEEN .500 AND .750 OF AN INCH.