Thanks RaginCajun.....I'll have to keep an eye out for gear on Ebay. I've seen that LL bean wool cruiser and it looks really nice. That's another thing.....I'm not ti sure what to get because the LL Bean one is two layers of 15 oz wool, while the Filson/Cabelas is two layers of 24oz wool. I'm also thinking of getting a large Cabela's Outfitters wool coat (one layer of wool) and layering with a 300 polartec underneath......kinda like a cheap version of Sleeping Indian. Oh the choices......