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Old 01-03-2006 | 02:53 PM
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patrkyhntr
 
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Wow! And you have the brass to call me ignorant? I hardly know where to begin. If you love New Jersey so much, you should move there. Well, lets start with the following:
"Pennsylvania has over 200,000 + acres in CRP/CREP. Many farms still do have decent habitat, though not all. Perhaps some of the forest could be cut and cleared and conditioned for small game. All of PA's Game Lands need not be pole timber!"
I do love the way you post glittering generalities. Do you know anything about habitat for wild pheasants? I'll wager that I can't find one farm in Franklin County, PA, which by the way used to be polluted with pheasants, quail, woodcock, etc., that would support more than a very few wild pheasants. Pheasants need food and cover. Most of our Franklin County farms are as bare as a baby's behind now. I guess you don't know much about clean farming either. Nor have you toured many gamelands. Try SGL169, near Newville. I don't remember much pole timeber there. You might also try SGL81 along Black Log Mountain. Not sure where you would put pheasants though.
To suggest that game lands have only pole timber is so baseless that it doesn't deserve any response, as was the one about cutting all the forest to raise pheasants. This is the same sort of mental midgetry that wants the forests cut to make more deer so our hunting for them could be easy like we want it to be. Not much of a conservationist, are you? You sure aren't an Aldo Leopold clone.

Another quote: " Remember, they are GAME Lands and not TIMBER lands, at least not yet. And, even as Timber the forest has not been managed properly. Each year the agency misses it's stated goal of cutting 1 % of it's timber, thus denying itself of some $10 Million Dollars. And that's been going on for several years. (Go ahead, take your shoes of andcount that up.)"
Sorry you have to take your shoes off to count over ten. I don't. As to cutting timber, I will quote the great communicator, "There you go again." Cuttng trees seems to be the only suggestion you have. Would you cut trees to make up the shortfall in funding that exists? Cutting more than 1% of the timber would be nice, but not sustainable. There will be some years in which more is cut, and some in which less is. Sometimes this depends upon whether or not a bid is received for the timber. So far, you are batting zero, but don't let that stop you.

Third quote: "Why not stock more pen raised birds? It's a put and take proposition no matter how the PGCobtains Pheasants. Why not shoot pen raised Hens? They don't propagate as itis now. Even the PGC biologists will tell you that."
This is brilliant. Why didn't I think of that? Oh, but I guess you have a source for these pen raised birds that is free? The last time I checked, the "blame" commission cut the amount of stocked birds because they didn't have enough money to keep it up at the same rate. For your information, it costs about $10/bird to stock pheasants so you can have a good time hunting them. How much are you willing to pay for the privilege? And those pen raised birds are so dumb that possums eat most of them.

Another brilliant quote: "Now you tell me why the PGC will not support a Wild Pheasant Re-Introduction Program?
Why does the Tri-County Pheasants Forever Chapter in concert with the US Fish & Wildlife Service and the Calif. University of PA have to do it?
It's a program that would only cost the PGC $35,000 each year for 3 years. Put your shoes back on,... the total cost is $105K. "
I really hate to keep bringing this up, but where does this money come from? Do you have a bunch in that hat you pull rabbits out of? OK. Lets assume that money can be found. Where would you reintroduce those wild birds? It would make no sense whatsoever to put them here in Franklin County, which (did I tell you this before?) used to be prime pheasant country and is now clean farmed. Put you shoes back on.

Still another brilliant observation: "Let me ask you something; is hunting deer from a tree stand (sometimes tree houses) with scent placed in the area, hunting, or is it simply SHOOTING???"
What does this have to do with the cost of this wonderful program you are proposing? Who cares? I don't.

And finally: " Like I said, come to the meeting or don't you want to face the fact that the agency is grossly mismanaged. (And everybody knows it.)"
"Everybody knows it," is the last refuge of those who know nothing themselves. It is amazing that you seem to really believe that eveyone agrees with your narrow view of things. Nothing could be farther from the truth, but again, don't let that stop you. I guess you skipped reading for comprehension in school. I told you I would be out of town at that time. Besides, I have better things to do than to listen to a bunch of whining and griping. If you think you could do a better job of managing this state, run for office and take the place of one of those you consider to be incompetent. I will be certain, however, to write letters to the PAGC stating my position on several issues, just as I have done frequently in the past.
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