all of you guys from pa cannot be wrong. I thought at first you were just complaining, but nearly EVERYONE from pa is saying this. I use to live in se pa in bucks co before antler restrictions. honestly, I think what they did with wma vs regions/counties is ridiculous. the doe tag situation is out of control. I use to see a ton of deer in bow there. you are right too, you have to be heir to some throne to get permission on private land anymore. va is getting bad too. I think that the deer population here is alright. they need to do something about the size of the bucks shot though, some sort of antler restrictions. I have permission from a few friends for private land, but go off of that, and there are hunters everywhere. in pa, you use to just be able to walk up, say hello, tell thelandowner where you lived, and ask permission. I remember getting like a 70% 'yes you can hunt'. now, it's hard to muster the courage. my dad has gotten a buddy of mine that lives near him permission. some folks have had it with the deer in some areas. still don't get that whole doe tag allocation. yeesh.