It is hard to tell what the facts are coming out of PA, as the PGC has not released any information on the success or failure of AR. We hear a lot from unhappy hunters on this and other posts about the declining conditions in PA but isthis outcryoccurring more, less or about the sameas we hear fromNY hunters? So, the question is, is the contemporary way of managing our deer herd the way we should continue? Let's face it the deer herd is declining in NY, hunter numbers are down as a result, and many of us are frustrated that we spend hours in the woods just to see one or two does. In my opinion, something must be done and it is called change.I know this word scares many, as it means things will be different. Yes, there is a chance that things could get worse but there is a greater likelyhood that they will get better as they are already pretty bad. No, this is not a guarantee or promisethat they will get, but in life there are few of those. I would recommend that everyone look at the attached site... if nothing else, it providesa balanced perspective from wildlife biologists & hunters on what may be a viable option for NY.(http://www.cnywhitetails.com)