i dont know what else to do. I went out and turned up my DW and set my 25 yard pin down to 20. So I have a 15 and 20 yard pins. BUT I still hit way too low at 25 with my 20 yard pin. Another thing is on my bow, my two pins are only about a an 1/8 of a inch apart. I guess its the little things that make a difference, I guess with a gun you have more forgiveness than with a bow. If I can't get a deer in to 15 or 20 yards I guess I'll pass him up. I