I almost forgot the buck weighed in field dressed at 160# the guides said that would put his gross weight at about 180 to 185, I know he is no monster by his rack, but the weight was great for what they estimate being a 1 1/2 year old buck. And what a case of ground shrinkage I encountered when I walked up to him<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>