i thought john was the ceo or president also, the other founder of bowtech. i read the thread on AT. my favorite parts were where guys shooting bows kevin designed were attacking him. i found that part pretty funny. i mean, he made those guys love bowtech and they were being jerks. for the split part, it's like a marriage or relationship, and i learned a long time ago to not stick my nose in there. once you do, you end up the bad guy. stuff happens, people move on. no biggie. i'm looking forward to the elite offerings.