DD...why were the runts off limits? He's a rookie. If I had someone that I wanted to take hunting and had a couple of deer patterned, I would tell him to take the first one he was satisfied with. I'm not busting your chops here DD.....and i won't get into the other things that happened after the shot. It just seems that there are ALOT of deer in the south from what many on here say.....I don't see why killing one would hurt the herd?