I agree with you on the too dark and unrealistic for my enviroment on the traditional patterns. We have a lot of popular, birch, willows, etc so a lot of lines, browns, blacks and white. All i use is predator, I have found it be the best for my location. I use fall grey and fall brown, works awesome. If this sounds like your area, check out predator @
www.predatorcamo.com. They also have some newer patterns that might work, like evolution and deception. I believe lines are the key to concealment to break up your outline, other camos seem to believe in blend in technology, which doesn't work every where and not here. As luck would have so does Predator.
Edited by - skeeter 7mm on 10/15/2002 22:58:12