DD, I hope you didn't take my post as an insult or anything, I was just saying if he was inexperienced and got too excited and shot the deer(legally) then I think the best thing to do would have been to congradulate him, then explain to him how to better identify young deer / button bucks and why you try not to shoot those deer. I think sometimes we all need to remember how excited we were on our first or second deer. Case in point, I had one in the scope today at 25 yards and I thought it was a nice doe, was 3 seconds from drooping the hammer when it looked at me, and I saw it had 2 inch spikes, so I let it walk. A few years ago and seeing it had horns and I would have shot and been thrilled with a spike!