For deer(moose is a different story),, a guide is only required in the rainy river area for non-res,, basicly all crown land in the area,, its big and nasty and people tend too get lost up there..the area you are looking at is southern ontario farm country,, no where near rainy river.

For this area,,there are draws in august for permits too allow deer hunting with shotguns and muzzleloaders..There are3 seperate weeklong seasons.. you apply for the week you want,, and hope too get drawn. typically there are 400 hundred permits per county, per week. its usually 100% gaurantee of drawing a permit.

There isNO non-res hunting of deer allowed in these areas(southern ontario farm country),, with either gun or bow! you'd have too drive about5-6 hours from detroit to be in a legal area for non-res deer hunters.basicly you'd have to be in the rifle zone(parry sound area and north(georgian bay) too legally hunt whitetails,, this area you would not need a guide,, manitoulin island you do not need a guide.

Do I think its crazy,, nope! we can get permission for deer hunting fairly easily in southern ontario.. If hunters numbers went up(and it would if non-res were allowed),, people would start leasing properties too hunt, right now it doesnt happen at all.. acase of beerand a handshake can get you on most properties.

Weve sat in the local diner after the openning morning hunt and havehad multiple farmers ask us too come hunt theyre properties. Alot of them know who we are already. every year the night before the openner we have a big fish fry at the main farm that we hunt at.. the farmer invites all his friends and relatives over for a big feast of yellow perch, walleye and rainbow trout that myself and 2 others supply and cook.More than once weve had"guests" say hop in the truck,,, I want too show you something you might be intrested in...