I've been working on this 130-140 class eight point for the last few weeks. I've had him stop short of my stand two different times. And see him every night when I spotlight after dark. I know he's there. But he never comes in til after dark. Well I decided to walk into the woods a little farther back then where my stand is yesterday and found his rub line. A series of atleast a dozen rubs all in a row on a small ridge. I'll wait til this weekend to go back and set up there....give things a few days and maybe catch him coming in before dark.