find a smaller shop who carries them or one that can order one in and you can get either for $650......i can go 40 miles east and pay $699, or 40 miles southwest and get it for $650....both are the same price........if you really want to save some money get on ebay and pick up a new 05 model for $425 to $450 (allegiance - no tribute in 05)...just picked up a defender on ebay loaded with vital bow gear rest, sights, and peep.....bohning quiver, winn free flight release, 4 carbon arrows and 4 broadheads, and a carbon rod doinker stablizer for $525....bow was used for 2 months, so it said and looks it....looks brand new, all of it.....priced everything out on net with best prices if could find and total'd over $1100.00......before tax....think i might have sold for $725.....just couldn't pass it up.....lol