Thanks for the guesses guys, I'll let you know when I get it officially scored after the 60 days, only about 18 to go (but who's counting) I also appreciate the arguing good clean entertainment. Like a lot of you guys are saying it really doesn't matter what it scores I love it. When I do the mathusing the B&C scoring site I'm right around 170 after deductions, I lose 4" on the split brow tines, but we will see.I'll keep you posted.