I should add one thing, germaine. As to the hunters in the woods, I agree with you that there are definitely fewer. I saw a grand total of four other hunters in the woods during the two weeks of rifle season. Where is that pumpkin army everyone seems to be so afraid of? They sure aren't on state gamelands 81, at least not the part of that 2000 acres that I hunt.

I will stand by what I said. Small game hunters didn't scare the deer nearly as much as being shot at does. My deer are much more wary than they used to be by the time rifle season rolls around. You are lucky yours aren't. Hunting must be much easier for you than it is for me where I hunt. I believe my deer are born scared.