well, i have the lone wolf climbing sticks and the lone wolf hang on they fit to the stand perfectly and if you go to the hardware store and get to 16' bungy straps they hold the sticks to the stand perfectly w/out a noise. it will get you depending on how much space you put between them from 14-18 feet. in my neck of the woods i usually hit some branches and don't even use but 1-2 of the sticks. i will warn you not to trust a pecan tree though. just this past weekend i was one lucky sole, i used on stick and thought i would be cute and just grab the 1st limb and pull my self up them climb on up to put the stand on. well the i got on it and grabbed the next limb and without warning the limb my foot was on broke and the limb i was holding swung me out and it broke. i fell about 10-12 feet and landed on my back and head. i have hunted out of treestands for 15 years and have never fallen til now but it has really opened my eyes. if you use a limb you better make sure it is alive and this time of year you cant tell w/ pecans. when the brake there is no warning. i nocked my shoulder outand sprang my knee as well as a sore back, neck, head. i am very fortunate. please be carefull. i hit the sticks on the way down and just bruised me if it would have been a screw in step there is no telling what it would have done.