Aww Frizzler it just ain't so. The 1948 model 36 marlin 30-30 leaning against my reloading bench is a better deer rifle than any of yours up to 150 yards, has killed more deer for my dad and I than any single rifle you own (or ever will) and has never lost a deer hit with it. How you can set yourself up as an expert on a rifle you don't use is practically a liberal angle. Sorry your friends can't shoot too, now they probably use magnums they can't shoot either.