I was talking to a friend of mine this morning and he told me about a web site to buy cheap shells. He shot these shells all season last year and swears by them. The website is http://www.outlaw.com/index2.cfm. The shells are B&P (Baschieri & Pellagri) I bought 12ga, 3" 1.25oz, BB 500 rounds for $130.95 shipping and all. They had several different shot, powder, and length combinations to choose from. I can't wait for them to get here and the ducks to start moving in. Just thought I would share this info, some of you might want to try them out.