BTBowhunter and Stoneman... you answered my question. I didn't know the bottom part of the climbing stik couldbe easily removed.... putting a 4x6 or 4x4 under it would work great... thanks

WVHunter... I hear you on the grizzlies... very strong steps and seem to be very safe... as long as you don't fall on one.. putting them in can be a real b$t$h... I drill a pilot hole and use a 3lb lump hammer to get them fully seated... I don't want them pivoting when I step on them.Lot of work... I helped a buddy put up his hang on with a climbing stix... I was amazed how fast and easy it went up and how secure it was... I'm sold on the stix from here on out.