I know Big Country. He's been to my house and is a very good bowhunter. It's the stories like this that make me wonder about using the screw-ins even though I've never been injured or had a serious mishap in 25 years of using them.

The strap-on ladder I have is made by strongbilt. It FEELS like a peterbilt! It's very heavy steel, a bit awkward to use and quite loud. The clibing sticks I have are made by ol'man and they're not much lighter and nearly as noisy. It's starting to look like non-typicals, gorillas, rapid rails and lone wolf would be a good ones to look at.

Thanks for the replies. Keep 'em coming.