doug,here in tennessee where i hunt it is extremely thick brush,and i sight in for somewhere between 100 yds but keeping in mind that a few fields are near in the event i see a deer there and knowing how drop is in a 150-200 yd shot. i shoot t/c shocwave saboted bullets and 100 grain of powder.shockwave bulletts really pattern well for me i tried powerbelts but had no luck with good patterns.