Geez Coyote, you didn't beat me up near as much as I thought..LOL. I really don't care for the WSMs or the WSSMs either. I use my 223 for varmints, my 270 or 7mm-08 for deer, my trusty old 45-70 for black bear, and my 300 WM for elk on up. That is of course if I ever get to Africa - then I will just HAVE to buy a 416 Rem.or 375 H&H. Guess I'll just keep dreaming that!