yeah your right. i should have looked into it more. sorry for being hard headed. your right i do have a dislike for wardens ingeneral. However the one that told me this ishappens to be a friend of mine. I guess he was wrong as well. he doesnt work that area he is out west. I hope someone does kill a record here in the east but i doubt it. the average mature buck around here is 15-18 inches widewouldnt yall agree? i gonna put a pic of a buck i killed right here in williamsburg last year. happy holidays and good luck in the woods.