I watched an episode of Black Powder Guns and Hunting on the outdoor life network. Oneil Williams and Chad Scherrer went to the CVA plant and showed the process in which the barrels are made. The blanks are computer straightened first followed by drilling them to diameter. They are then buttoned rifled and certain barrels for certain models are put on a mechanical lapping machine. Cva told me these will be used on the new one with the centerfire rifle barrel and muzzleloader system(Optima Elite) that will compete with the Encore. The rep also told me that all the barrels on CVA rifles are made by Bergara. During the tour of the plant though, they said the lapped barrels were used on the Optima Pro. Who knows!!! I was really impressed by the processes they use. The plant is high tech with robotic arms doing the welding and fine measurements. I know the CVA rifles seem to shoot the powerbelt bullets very well and are recommended. The Winchester Apex and the CVA Kodiaks are the same but with different refinements. Correct me if Im wrong. I have a CVA Firebolt magnum .45 cal. I got it from the bargain cave at Cabelas for 119.00. That is with 10.00 coupon. It is the one made for Cabelas with the woodtech synthetic stock. It looks like walnut with a nice grain to it. Havent shot it yet but the quality looks fine to me. I currently use a Thompson Center Renegade kit .50 cal, MDM quicshooter .50 cal, and a Thompson center Firehawk stainless in .54 cal. Those guys from the show on the outdoor life network really love those CVAs. Ive seen them kill animals at 215 yards with .45 cal rifles and powerbelt bullets. They have used the optima pros, kodiak magnums, Firebolts, and the winchester apex. Well thats all I got to say about that.(Forest Gump)