Ok A hunter you are really starting to piss me off!!! We don't understand deer hunting because we hunt in a treestand with a rifle. Gee whiz how many people do you think hunts in a treestand with a freakin rifle???? A TON!!!!! God not everyone hunts just like you. The terrain is a lot different in most states then cali, just don't degrade our way of hunting. If you don't have anything nice to say, just shut the hole in your face. GEEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!