Phade - some people will always complain abou the DEC and deer management in NY.

Over the last 10 years - these same guys weren't patting the DEC on the back for the huge increases in the deer herd and harvest - they were complaing that too many deer were getting shot - and too many permits were being issued - even with RECORD POPULATIONS and harvests year in and year out.

The DEC has said the last few years that there is such thing as "too many deer" - and now that populations have been swinging down. The same guys that "refuse to shoot does" are armchair managing the state deer herd.

I say let the DEC do their Job.

Ask them to list their population goals for each WMU and hold them to it.

FH