RE: 17 hmr what rifle to buy
I forgot to mention I have the savage heavy barrel with plain wood stock. I put a 6.5-20x44 alaskan guide scope on it. 200 dollar gun with a 400 dollar scope, first time I have ever done that. I love it, these little guns flat out shoot if it isn't windy.
One inch groups at 100 yards for 5 shots is about the norm for them. Some shoot better, some a bit worse. Mine is usually 1 inch or under at 100 yards off from a bench with V-max ammo. And that is right out of the box with factory ammo! I did shim my trigger and put a lighter spring in it after a while though.
Paul