ahunter, ahunter, ahunter, what is with you? "Only Real Men Shoot Bucks" what the hell is that!!!!!! Im 27 shot plent of deer in the last 13 years of hunting and many have been does, not only am I a hunter I am a licensed guide as well, I think you need to remember what hunting is all about. It's not a competition it's a sport, and if you only in for it for the competition then you need to retake hunters education, the real philosophy of hunting does is "hunt does much, shoot does often!" This is the actual deer management that you are over looking, I know it's not legal in your state to shoot does but it is in 90% of the United States, A REAL MAN HUNTS FOR THE SPORT AND ITS GUYS LIKE YOU THAT TAKE THE SPORT OUT OF IT, maybe you should join your local DNR, because you would fit right in with an attitude like that!!!!! Either hunt for the sport or saty on the porch!!!