[:@]Some idots shouldn't even be allowed to look at a fire arm period. Fellow I worked with bought a 50 cal Remington 700 had a nice Pentex scope put on it. Came to work the next day and asked if I had ever shot a ram rod. I told him not as yet, so he whiped his bent up ram rod out to show me. He said he did it to see just what would happen. I don't know if he ever got the breach plug out that had became jammed cross threaded in there. Good way to mess up a fine fire arm do some thing stupid just to see what happens.

Al