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Old 12-08-2005 | 06:47 AM
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Default RE: brace height, riser or ATA

i never would have guessed this thread would turn into a classic. we should have a 'hall of fame' section that posts like this make it to.
We do, but I lost the link to it.

It should not come as that much of a surprise though for some folks. I remember a time on this forum and others when topics such as this as well as single versus dual cams, split versus solid limbs, carbon versus aluminum arrows brought about a sometimes heated but always informational debate.

I hate to walk in so late to a discussion such as this but I feel the need to at least share my own experiences. I do not have the time or experience represented by many of the individuals on this thread but I do believe that I have more than most. Personal experience has led me to believe that one cannot isolate factors such as axle to axle length or brace height into being single characteristics that directly affect how accurate or forgiving a bow is. As was mentioned by the others there really are not any bow configurations that vary by just one factor. Because of this it is very difficult to just isolate that factor and refer to it as the only answer to this issue.

Furthermore, I have always been on the side of the fence the promotes brace height as being the limiting factor in forgiveness or accuracy when all else is equal. However, it was probably presumptuous on my part to do so. Why? Because I was basing it strictly on my own experiences with the bows that I have owned and shot over the years. The conclusion I reached may be true to an extent but only when it applies to me and not necessarily the next person to make such a comparison between models. Again, why you ask? Because my personal tendencies and specifications are different from anyone elses'. Draw length, for example, plays a huge role in this discussion in my opinion. As Arthur made reference to earlier, having a longer draw length is somewhat of a form issue as well. A longer draw length does promote greater arrow speed but at some of a cost to forgiveness. With that issue in mind it should come as no surprise that I tend to shoot longer brace height bows more accurately. The longer brace height helps to somewhat negate the effects of the longer draw length by decreasing the bow's powerstroke.

Now, keep in mind I said "longer brace height bows" and not "short axle to axle length, longer brace height bows". That is an important distinction to make because, again, I believe different configurations make it difficult to isolate one factor over another. I do enjoy shooting the shorter axle to axle length bows because of their portability and maneuverability but under no circumstance would I say that a short axle to axle length, long brace height bow is more accurate than a longer axle to axle length model with the same level of brace height. The tricky part comes into play when you try to compare a shorter bow with a long brace height and a longer bow with a short brace height. Again, personal experience leads me to believe that it boils down to the individual shooter and that generalizations cannot really be made.

On the issue of the riser geometry.....This factor obviously plays a part in this same discussion because it cannot be trully isolated from brace height and even, to some extent, axle to axle length. How much of a factor it is I am not qualified to comment on simply because I have very limited experience with deflex riser bows. I have a diffcult time totally discounting it though as it is too often connected with the other two factors in question.

Lastly, we have not even begun to touch on other issues. These factors do not exist within a vacuum. If we are to discuss these in comparison to one another and forgiveness then the issue of cam design must also be discussed. I think back to Len's post comparing the 37.5 and 38 inch bows. How did the cam designs of each model affect the results of his comparison? Was it strictly the riser geometry that played such a huge role or did the cam designs also factor into the equation.

Sorry for further complicating the issue but these were the first thougths that came into my mind after reading through the 6 pages of this post.
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