Not all the blame falls onto the DEC's shoulders. We as hunters must protect our deer from bad hunters and poachers as well. Do I believe that the DEC has dropped the ball YES I DO. But we as hunters need to step-up and take control. If you are aloud only one buck during the regular season than that is all everyone should take. Same with bow and with doe permits. I have tried to practice some QDM on all the land that I hunt and it is hard knowing that these deer will probably be shot on neighbors property, but they are legal deer for them to shoot. How ever to here that one of the hunters took 2 bucks on opening day is just wrong. Now this upsets me, both deer were young (not that it matters). My point is that this kind of hunting (I mean poaching) must be stopped. I have talked in the past to the neighbors about some kind of AR for our area (just our own thing) the response was no andthat if DEC ever passes an AR rule that we will shoot first count points later. WOW does NY need to tighten their grip they need to better control the deer take and reporting system. Just my $0.02