Optics wise I think they are as good as the lower priced Leupolds, but I'm not that impressed with the cheaper leupolds for the price anyway.

You can't beat them for customer service warranty though. (leupold) They are not as good as the more expensive models though. If you want good optics you need to spend money, pure and simple. Don't expect to buy a $200 simmons and have it be as good as a 300-600 dollar leupold, it just isn't gonna happen. But that holds true for any other scope maker as well.

Paul