Atlasman, I have read alot of your posts and comments over the past months and I know that when you have an opinion you stick with it know matter what, and there is nothing wrong with that. I just wanted to say once again that it is impossible for the DEC to know how many deer there are on every square mile of NYS. We as hunters of the land should know. The DEC doesn't step foot on most of the land. If your deer herd is that bad, hunters from your area should let them know.