Guess this thread is beating a dead horse at this point. No matter what positive things people say. It just seems to get shot down regardless by those that have made up their minds that NY DEC has ruined hunting in the whole state because their areais not the hotspot it was.

My Dad hunted VT hard infrom the late 50's-the early 80's. From about1958-1968 he had great hunting. Took a buck every year, and saw 20-30 doe daily. These areas crashed due to deer overpopulation about 1969, and never really was the same again. He continued to hunt through the 70'suntil he gave up on these areas by '82.The habitat grew up and nowholds few deer PSM simply because the cover was not the same.My dad didn'tget upset with VT f & G and cry foul. He moved on.Most hunters I know have a hot spot for a few years. Word gets out, and the cover phases out as prime location. They move on to newlocations.I have seen it on fishing areas as well.

NY is a big state. You can't judge by the statusof the herd from your littlecorner. My state is much smaller, and the deer situation changesnot only from DMZ units, but from cover to cover.I am sure a much larger state like NY its just more so.