thanks you guys for the info, I shot the deer i spoke of during the regular shotgun season, I will try again when the late ML season comes in. Also All the deer I have shot have been with a bow so the trama to the meat is little or none. but man the hornady sst really messed up alot of meat in the shoulder area. Do any of you go for neck shots because of this, or should i just get used to discarding the meat? This bp forum catagory seams like it has a real good group of regulars in it and am enjoying lots of reading
