Here in 8Y is loaded with deer. The DECALS had a glitch this year and the DEC has fixed it, but it was to late. I don't blame the DEC 100%. But I don't have problems with getting deer. In fact were trying to cut the doe Pop. because the buck/doe ratio is off 15% on our hunting lands in the past 2 years.This year is the first year I'v seen more bucks than does. so it's working.. We don't have the DEC control our hurd.. we control it. That is the privilege of private land. DMP, we have them. We don't abuse them and we don't use them in the summer because of off spring. As far as state land, no idea. I completely agree with Farm Hunter. The DEC is not allll the bad guys here,, think of poachers. Car deer wrecks, winter of 93 and 94 04. wounded deer are not gunna survive normal winters, yotes,, COUGARS haha jk,,Bottem line,don't let the DEC manage your deer. YOU manage.