I feel for you guys in NY. I am starting to beleive the same thing is happening to our deer populations in Pa. Some say hunt harder and go deeper into the woods, without knowing anything about our hunting skills or tactics. Maybe some are in denial? Maybe some are blessed with good hunting lands. I don't really know the answers, but I can atleast be honest to say that numbers are way down and i'm a little nervous about it. After all we are paying these people to manage our herd not devour it. To me atleast its worth talking about. I hope things work out for you guys in New York.