Well I had to come in from hunting today, Have to go to a wedding. I found a super hot ridge with fresh scraps and rubs all over theplace,had 6 does come by at 25 yards,I waas waiting fora big boy to be trailing them.I did not shoot because I needed to leave. I will be back out tomorrow in my stand, and I will be shooting. THe bad thing is it is about a mile walk to where I am going to set up. But well worth it.