No question that thehighest performingmuzzleloading loads are still moderate range prospects at best. 200 to 250 yards absolute maximum, IMO. The knockdown that they have within this range has always been pretty impressive. I shot an elk in 2003 with a Barnes 250 Expander, at a ranged 211 yards, and it literally dropped in its tracks. Wouldn't have even attempted that shot with a .30-30; even though, from a trajectory standpoint, I'm sure I could have hit the vitals.