I can certainlyunderstand your interpretation of my statement as made,but as I previously stated,the topic dealt solely with the 257wby so I didn't feel that it was necessary to add the qualifier that it must be fired in a 257wby.Judging by your reply,I guess that I should have.Before making my statement I checked every commercially available.257" bullet that I could find and none would lose only 25fpsevery50 yards when fired at the velocities possible with a 257wby.In fact none were even close.