CougarMag: You were doing fine until you threw on that pair of jeans. That is a no no from the word go. Cotton Jeans?????? Say it ain't so Joe.

DK: I'd quit too if I were you. You're such a pansy.[8D] Take some of that money you spend on Quikspins etc and buy you some good cold weather clothes. You say you're wearing thermal undies. I suspect they're heavy in cotton or something like that. Get rid of anything cotton in cold weather. Oh you can wear an outer layer for camo purposes but next to your skin you want some hi-tech undies. Follow that with another layer or two of similar stuff. I like a light weight set, then a mid weight Smartwool layer. If it's really cold I may follow that with another layer of Expedition weight stuff from Cabelas. Top it off with a wool shirt(OR TWO depending on temps) YOUR FEET must come first along with the head. Sock liners(not cotton of course) followed with good wool and maybe another pair, depending on temps. YOU MUST have room in your boots. If you bought them too tight to put on two or three layers of socks you're sunk. Tightly bound feet will get cold right NOW. I generally go with at least one less layer below the waist than I do above. Chemical warmers can be used to take the chill off fingers and hands if you wear fingerless gloves like I do. Chemical warmers can be used in the boots in EXTREMELY cold temps. DOn't use them in moderate stuff like your 20 degree temps as your feet will probably get too hot and then cold. Other options for cold feet are better boots(MUST BE ROOMY) and/or bootblanket type thingys. Get some of that rubberized wrap for your bow riser to keep your hands from getting cold. Do isometrics against the tree and stand. Pull the bow a couple times every hour or so. Keep your toes moving...wiggle 'em. Don't play with yourself.[8D][8D] Suck it up wimp. 20 degrees is just getting right..it's not cold. Layer it.... layer it ......layer it. You described 2 layers. Not enough. Get rid of the big bulky cumbersome parkas and just get layer after layer of moderate weights. Wool is grand. Wind blocker type fabrics will keep the beast at bay too, but I don't wear them. I just add lots of layers. On a really cold day I'll hae the 2 layers of undies top and bottom, 2 wool shirts of modest weight and maybe a vest. Chemical heater packs and 100 degree below boots with 2 pairs of socks and a pair of liner socks. As a last resort I have inserts for my boots that hold a hand warmer in the insert below my toes. You must have room to wiggle the toes generously to keep the chemical packs breathing. This will keep me well below freezing. Below zero I may skip the heaters and go with boot blankets. They're bulky...but warm. Add a wool vest. I go to termax type balaclava around 10 degrees. Two of them(light and medium)as you dip lower. Keep the neck area and kidneys warm grasshopper.

Dressed for success in late season. Note the added pair of glove liners(thin weight Termax) for the finger tips yet I can still feel. Two wool shirts and all the undies. One fleece lined balaclava. Ready to rock and roll.