Those were in 065. The biggest deer I have ever seen was during a 10 late hunt in 2000. I saw 4 or 5 4x4's in one draw, plus onebig deer that had at least 5 on one side, and we couldn't count thatyear. I ended up shootinga mature 2x2 that year, as wekept getting busted by the deer in that larger group. Isaw one deer in 075 in 2003 in the middle of June that was already out to his ears and forking the second time. I drew 081 in 2002, in hopes of getting a good 4 point, as the area was good in the past, but it took a big dive after the fires of 1999. The biggest deer my dad and I saw was a 3 point. I have also seen other large deer in 065, including a group of 5 good bucks at once, just this year while the season was in!!