I think the thing to keep in mind with scents and calls that they are only effective during a very short period of time duringdeer season. If you hit it right they work to the point you can't believe, and other times the deer pay no attention what so ever. I've had the best success in early pre-rut when the doe aren't quite ready, but the bucks are all primed to find that first hot doe. Once the doe come in it's harder to get a bucks attention when he is with a hot doe already.