My self I'm a honda man and own 450 es but I always said honda doesn't realy measure up except for realiablity.The brute was the fastest most powerfull bike out there until the new outlander came out in a v-twin but only out powering the bruteslighly for3-4000.00 more. Now their having power-train problems,the brute's a bad-ass bike that won't disapoint you.