Thats where I am goin with out your pot stirring[:@], You think they are made or bred? It is funny out of all the groups in this comp. Nobody can seem to be wrong, or right but everyone is ready to hash it out. It was funny at the start, there were like85 hits on this topicand 2 replies. Amazing, it all comes out in the wash. Thanks Doc E, Mite, porknbeans, and Alaska Magnun the honesty is a virtue. Comment was not anything about buying a dog, or running in compitition, just what you guys thought. I knew what myfeeling was, its funny 157 hits 13 replies, odd. Have great turkey day, Thanks again! " Patience is a Virtue" Jonesy