hello yes stubblejumper i agree its not a best gorup forum its an average group post and that 100 yrds is standard and i agree thats what i usually shoot but this was a special shoot from 125. the only reason i posted the way i did is because i felt insulted that my gun is crap when it isnt and my temper got a little heated so i tried to insult mossy back. mossy congrats those are some good groups but the 710 can perform as good or maybe better then all the others and thats all i ment by it and i too dont want it to become a pissing match.